a parable on grace

there were two men who each inherited a field of planted crop. god sent the rains and soaked the fields so that the crops grew well and each man was able to provide for his family as well as make a profit at market. the first man thanked god for the crop and remembered what god had done. the second man did not thank god or remember what he had done. when they died the first man was taken to gods side whereas the second was taken away forever.

which man received grace?

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~ by graceshaker on February 2, 2009.

11 Responses to “a parable on grace”

  1. Ahh good question. it would depend on what you mean by received. I say they both received God’s grace via the blessings they were given. Every good and perfect thing we have comes from God, right? Anything we get from God is a gift of grace because we are undeserving. They both received the grace, but only one of them recipricated the gift with worship. My thought.

  2. The first man, clearly.

  3. He causes the rain to fall on the just and the unjust.

  4. jsmed and hill – yes. and thats the key to understanding grace.

    hope – why do you think its only the first guy?

  5. Because he is sent to hell. That isn’t grace. Working hard to live a life isn’t grace either.

  6. I would suggest that God’s grace is not found in the ends or the result of heaven or hell, rather it is seen in that we have life and blessings in that life.
    Anything that is good we receive from God is considered to be grace because we are undeserving.
    He is sent away to hell because his refusal to accept the source of the grace. In our lives we find it all to easy to accept grace, but a difficult time recipricating in worship to the giver of grace.

  7. Working hard throughout your life to earn what you have does not equal the grace of God. So in my eyes, yes…it would come down to heaven or hell.

  8. That is my point… we are in agreement on some level here. We both believe that you cannot earn anything from God, right? IF we were to receive what we deserve we would live a life equal to the torture of Job if not worse and then go to hell eternslly. Neither man in the parable did anything different than the other with the exception of praising God for his gift to them. Any gift from God has to be grace b/c it is undeserved. I think limiting God’s grace to the end of our lives also limits the amount of credit we give to God for the good in our lives. IF you are saying people who get what they have from working hard have earned it by the sweat of their brow, I would ask you who gave them the ability to do the work? Every good and perfect gift is from God even our ability to work hard.

  9. This is a vague and tricky question because it places more fault and blame on the reader if he doesn’t know how understand and answer it.

    In the human perspective, we are selfish enough to choose the first man because we believe he was most humble, send to hell the second man. But that isn’t the answer the question posed, because the parable isn’t asking “which man went to heaven or hell’ the parable asked ‘which man received grace,’ (yet, with grace, you gotta disregard works altogether) this is the fallibility of human reasoning when we place favor in works and try to answer a question of grace. Can we comprehend the mind of God? I assume, not.

    Clearly both men received God grace because ‘both’ were able to prosper ‘with’ God’s grace as shown in the 1st and 2nd sentences (which the question asked). While there are no merits or favors to win grace, it was shown by the second man, even though he prospered, he didn’t regard God.

    My answer is, both men received grace.

  10. Yes, I am very much so saying that these men got what they have from the sweat of their own brow. We may have the blessings of heath and fitness, but that doesn’t give you the mindset and heart and determination to do what you have to get done to earn what you have. I still am sticking with my statement on the fact that the first man is the man who received grace.

    And the fact that the determination of grace comes down to heaven or hell…well aint that some poop? See, it *appears* selfish for the man to have not thanked god for the blessings in his life like so many of us do. I DO understand why you say both men, I just look at it from a different perspective than you. First off, it depends on whether or not the man even believes in god at all. If he doesn’t he’s not selfish at all in any way shape or form. If he does, it then depends if he actually practices a religion. If he doesn’t actually practice, then no..it’s not selfish. However, if he is a man that calls himself godly and righteous in the eyes of the lord (which from this parable I HIGHLY doubt) and still claims that everything he has is all because of the sweat from his brow. Yes, he is ignorant and does not understand the faith he claims. But it is only in that scenario in which I will agree with you. Otherwise, the man should go to heaven with the other guy and live happily ever after.

  11. the rain is like gods grace. as hillary said it falls on the just and unjust. gods grace isnt only for those who honor him. its for everyone. his grace is evident in every life bc he is active and involved in his creation.

    the trouble as hope has pointed out is that ultimately this leads to heaven or hell. and the answer is yes – thats exactly what grace does. and heres why. if god had not given the rain neither man would be expected to honor him for it. but bc he did – they are. god makes both responsible by sending the rain. and this is how grace works as well.

    we like to think of grace as some sorta hallmark card from prom-date jesus but the truth is that grace is the reason we are held responsible to god for our choices. he sent his son as the ultimate act of grace but the consummation of that wasnt pretty. it was god hanging naked on a tree bc of sin.

    in this way grace brings every person to the ultimate decision. for those who reject god grace is the means of their condemnation. but for those who follow him grace is the means of their salvation.

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